Carbon Fiber Seatpost FAQ
Over the years lots of people have asked
why Thomson does not produce a carbon fiber seatpost.
The short answer is that the technology
does not exist at this time to make a carbon fiber seatpost
that meets our requirements for strength, safety and failure
mode.
For those interested in the details?
Original Goals of the Thomson Seatpost
Design:
- Make the strongest post on the market.
- Make a post with the correct failure
mode, bend-don’t break.
- Make a post with a long life cycle.
- Make a post that engages with the
saddle and the seatube of the bike in a simple manner.
- Make a post that is light while being
strong and safe.
While in initial design we pondered what
material to make our post from. Steel and titanium have very
nice characteristics but are heavy per volume and Ti is expensive.
Aluminum offers strength and light weight, when anodized it
is corrosion resistant and the alloy we chose has great fatigue
life.
At Thomson we have a universal definition
for strength. Strength is not just defined by the integrity
of the individual part being tested. We design with mating
parts in mind and have made many design decisions that enhance
the over all experience of using our products by making sure
that they safely integrate with other bicycle parts.
Bikes are used in rigorous ways in the
outdoor environment. Bikes are prone to being scratched and
dinged in their use. The strength of carbon fiber is vulnerable
if it gets a surface scratch.
Hoop strength refers to a materials ability
to resist damage when clamped. Carbon fiber is notoriously
weak in this regard. We feel it illogical to use a material
that is not made for being clamped around its circumference
in a seatpost. Clamping forces can lead to fiber shearing
and/or delamintaion of carbon fiber.
We designed the Thomson post to bend
above the max line, bend-not break. We designed all of the
clamping mechanism to be stronger than the post so that no
matter what, the saddle stays with the post in a failure.
We received a patent for this failure mode; we call it our
bending fuse. Carbon fiber will not fail in this manner. Carbon
can be strong but when it reaches failure point it fails catastrophically.
At Thomson we believe excellence is achieved
in studying the details. We incorporated other things in our
design such as longer saddle rail clamps to protect saddle
rails. We have invested in better than industry standard anodize
to prevent corrosion and to prevent posts freezing in frames.
Our Masterpiece manufacturing process creates a post that
is stronger and lighter than carbon.
A carbon post has to be built robustly
enough to bend repeatedly without fatiguing. Thomson posts
are tested in both design and production for strength and
fatigue. The Elite and Masterpiece have fatigue lives double
that of other available posts. If you make carbon posts strong
enough to offer good fatigue life, again they will be heavier
than aluminum posts
At this time we see no reason to switch
to carbon fiber, and many reasons to stay with aluminum. Aluminum
most importantly makes a much safer seatpost. The market backs
our product, its quality and the material it is made from.
For people whose first concern is weight, our Masterpiece
seatpost is the solution. After 9 years, if we had it to do
all over again the Thomson seatpost would still be aluminum.
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